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As far as the good cause they go to...yes it is a very good cause. And I state that over and over again in my article. But the reason I think that the bracelets need to go away, is because they have gotten AWAY from their good cause and they are now some lame status symbol, which I also state in the article. I even go on to say that it started out great, but the craziness ruined it. I never once say anything of the sort about how the money going to cancer research is bad in any way. I just think this extreme adoration of Armstrong is lame, mainly becuase it ruined the cause meaning of the bracelets.
Did you just read the title and decided to comment?
I refuse to wear or even touch of those bracelets!!
You know, even though there isn't much substance, this kind is the kind of post that one can really dig into and find some truths. For instance, I think we can all agree that one of the following is true:
This person is either someone that has those yellow bands all the way up his arm and is the exactly the type person that has turned this "livestrong" idea into a complete steaming pile of crap....or that was Lance Armstrong himself.
I choose to believe that latter. Thanks for the post Lance!
Interesting huh? I bet you would never had guesses you cared about what I think so much.
Also, I believe you are missing my point. The bracelets themselves are ok, the cause is good. The people, namely the people that buy into this and are reallying into defending it (which you are clearly a charter member of this group) and Lance Armstrong himself. I am not against the cause at all...I say donate the dollar and don't wear the bracelet. You are a fool to believe that the bracelet is just about cancer. You are wearing a marketing tool for Armstrong around your wrist! He is a liar if he said that wasn't part of it. If marketing himself wasn't a part of it the bracelets wouldn't be yellow, the tour de france's color for the winning rider...or LiveSTRONG wouldn't be the name, people that just want to help tell people to donate to a existing group not theirs with their name stamped everywhere. Hell if he didn't care about the marketing, there wouldn't be a damn bracelet to begin with!
(OMG! I'm like totally right aren't I?!)
I Bouht them for the cause not the FAD, I wear one and gave them to friends and family that wanted to wear them for the cause not the FAD!
But I did have one rule, NO SMOKERS could have one because Smoking can cause cancer.
Every $1 goes to LAF so even if someone bought it for the FAD, SO WHAT.
It is going to HELP people with Cancer.
My Mother died of Cancer.
It started as Breast Cancer but eventually spread in her whole body.
That is why I support and wear the LIVESTRONG wrist band.
I don't want to see anyone have to go through the pain and suffering that my MOM went through.
Z
Make no MISTAKE I agree with the cause...I just DON'T agree with the Lance Armstrong marketing and WORSHIP that goes along with it.
Also, whats with the CONSTANT capitalization?
Also, you seem to be missing my point. But thats ok, there are lots of other people out there just as stupid as you. You might have read some of their entries above.
If you think that Lance Armstrong got nothing but good karma from this Livestrong thing, you are even more stupid than your writing would suggest. He got an amazing amount of press from this, and in America, press means endorsements, and that means money. How much press did the other major Tour De France winners get in the past? I can't remember...you let me know if you can think of any of their names...or even if you knew who Armstrong was a few years ago. The fact of the matter is if he really wanted to do this and get nothing back and just be a good guy, he wouldn't have done the marketing spree with the little gold billboards that people can wear on their wrists.
Oh you were right about one thing: Who cares if someone doesn't like Lance Armstrong? Hell...Who cares if you DO like Lance Armstrong? Armstrong's charity is not the only game in town...if it all goes to cancer sufferers, then why would it matter that I'm stating my distain for Lance Armstrong?
You think about that one for a while.
Damn I hate repeating myself...read before you post people.
And how do people really know it's for a good cause? Just becuase the website say so, doesn't mean so. there are millions of other and far superior ways for lazy ass people to support anti-cancer movements.
Each year, more money is spent on stupid junk than the entire amount of money used for medical research funding.
FUCK YOU RETARDS!
Hell, even if you have one “for the cause” you’re a fucking idiot. You wear a yellow gay-ass wristband so everyone will know you gave a fucking dollar? WOOPEE!! Cheap-Skate mother-fuckers. And again, don’t go looking for recognition, hell especially for a fucking dollar. So if you have a yellow wristband, FUCK YOU! YOU CHEAP-ASS, ATTENTION SEEKING, FUCKING CUNT!!!
OK the bracelets are queer now and the only reason i found this post was im looking for one that says fuck you or fuck off i just don't want to buy 40 of them they made the yellow bracelets to raise awareness he gives more than the million dollars that they were raising from the sale guess what
he did what he wanted your talking about it he don't care if its a fad just as long as his messages gets out just like i don't care if a ugly girl blows me
On the other hand I do love that you tried to sound smarter by using big words for a third grader, like "proctologist" Even though you are the one, suggesting by the tone of your comment, that has something stuck up your ass, I must disagree with you on your suggestion. If I did in fact have something that "crawled up my ass" one wouldn't go to a proctologist, you would go to the plain ole ER. A proctologist is a doctor you would go to if you had a disorder or medical malady pretaining to the colon, anus, etc. He would not be someone you would go to if you, say, I don't know, had a Lance Armstrong bobblehead shoved up there. I'm sure you'll be thanking me for that information in the future.
There I go, helping those less fortunate once again!
People aren't just buying the bracelet because is lance armstrong, I actually have a valid reason. I've bought a bracelet and am proudly wearing it for all my family and friends that have had to deal with cancer, or have lost a loved one to cancer.
Why would someone bash out someone that is trying to raise money for a great cause, regardless of the bracelets.
So it would be fair to say that if you became ill and your family and friends wanted to raise money to help you, everyone shouldn't care because you'd be mooching people's money.
Get Real. Get a Life.
If you were raising money for a sick person and all of the money went to that person, then fine. Thats great, it happens all the time and its a wonderful thing. However, you can't seriously believe that Armstrong doesn't get something back in return from everyone wearing those dopey bracelets? You are a fool if you think so. I'm not accusing the guy of dipping in to the fund, but the yellow and the fact that it says "liveSTRONG" on sure sound like a nice marketing campaign to me.
Also, you sound like kind of a bitch.
Man, you are really messed up.
I live in Australia and everyone here knows what they are fundraising for and nobody has a problem that alot of people have them.
They are here for a good cause, its not just about Lance (u think he gets money out of them?). Really your just an idiot who has nothing else to do with your time. Live with it!
"I'm not accusing the guy of dipping in to the fund..."
What I'm saying is he is getting one great marketing campaign out of it. All I'm saying is that if he was really a great guy, he would give the money annoymously and not have people wear little advertisements on their arms.
Armstrong is just so full of himself and fools like you that just blindly follow the guy for a lame reason like "he had cancer." Not only that, but judging by both of your comments neither of you can read or at least chose not to. Because if you did I wouldn't have to waste time reiterating things I just wrote not more than a day ago.
Ok, just so I don't have to say it again: I DIDN'T SAY HE DIPPED OUT OF THE FUND, I'M SAYING THAT IF YOU THINK THAT HE ISN'T GETTING ANYTHING BACK FROM THIS (Like free marketing or a PR campaign or even a chance to get on TV more, thus more endorsements.) AT ALL YOU ARE AN IDIOT AND A DOUCHEY, BLIND LANCE FOLLOWER.
There, I even put it in caps for you.
YOU: "...but after he came back from cancer he learnt a lot and changed his ways, (doesnt that in itself make him a great person?)"
ME: "No."
YOU: "Secondly, how can you persecute a man for having a failed marriage?"
ME: "I want you to point out in my article where I even made mention of his wife. Go ahead, I'll wait...find it yet? No? Because I didn't mention her or anything like that in tha article. Can I make it a rule that you have to read before you can post?"
YOU: "...it is probably one of the most successful fundraisers in history, raising millions of dollars to help support people who really need it."
ME: "If you would have read the article you would have noticed this line: 'Well the organization initially was fine, but people have made this retarded.' I have no problem what so ever, as I have stated time and time again, with raising money for cancer. The main problem is retards like you that think this is more than it is. It should be just a fund raiser, but you changed it into a fahsion statement / religious experience with Armstrong as your spandex wearing messiah!"
YOU: "...a single parent family with a mother who scrificed everything just so her son could be a respectable man"
ME: "Who gives a rats ass about that? I'm pretty sure that doesn't make him special in this day."
Also, I want to make mention of the guy that called me an asshole, but did not have the guts to leave his name (or even make one up). That person will now be known as "Sheryl Crow".
I do find it interesting that you seem to care so much what I think and what I say to everyone. Nice to know I have a fan.
By the way, if Robin "cares what you say" at all its because there is no excuse for your spelling. You are either an adult with no education or a kid that will grow up to be one.
Just so you know, you seem to have listed off some other good examples of things that are harmless until mindless twits around the world made them into a steaming pile of crap...like Beanie Babies, or...yes...LiveStrong bands.
There, I replied, can you sleep tonight now?
Another thing i can suggest is perhaps you should stop making assumptions, i never said that this was a fashion statement (the only reason i personally wear a band is because i think it is a great cause and i find it insiring), and secondly i never said anything about it having to do with a religious experience, infact i am an atheist so no religion for me. I do believe you will find that a religious experience can be different to being inspired by something, if that is what your were refering to. And one final thing, instead of abusing people for not being as well educated as you or being a bit gutless, why dont you make real rebuttals against what they are saying? Just because someone doesnt know how to spell a word or two doesnt make them any less of a person than you or their opinion less worth while.
Sounds like someone finally read my article and is trying to not look like even more of an ass. Forgive me for not believing you about how you were commenting on "things others have said". First off why the hell would you comment about things others have said here? Thats stupid, inane and pointless. Secondly, here is a quote from your previous post: "...how can you persecute a man for having a failed marriage?" So when you said "you" you weren't referring to me, but to other people that have said that? Ok, so the whole post was directed at me execpt for that sentence? Sure. That makes sense. Wow how could I be so conceited that I could think that when you post a message on my site, about my article, that your message would be directed at me?! Lets face it, you were wrong! Its ok. I would think you would be used to it by now.
Also, how could I have made any assumptions about what you said? In my reply to your initial comment, all I did was DIRECTLY quote you and then reply. The act of directly quoting you pretty much eliminates the possibility of me generating any assumptions even if I wanted to. Now if you are referring to any of my other replies to OTHER people that have commented, then maybe you are the one that thinks "the world revolves around you."
Ok, lets move on to the next part of you misguided diatribe. "secondly i never said anything about it having to do with a religious experience, infact i am an atheist so no religion for me." Who gives a shit what religion you are? Noone. I was using a metaphor you 'tard! I would hope that noone is actually worshiping Armstrong, although I wouldn't be surprised by it judging by some of the reactions this article gets.
Oh an lastly: "Just because someone doesnt know how to spell a word or two doesnt make them any less of a person than you or their opinion less worth while." Yes it does.
I think the best way to sum your absolutely worthless post is with your own words:
"...how dose some one not knowing how to spell make them less of a person that’s just ridicules."
Wow. That is just a mess. I'll just let everyone else read over that one and let the sheer horribleness wash over them.
As far as your last question...do I seem like a give a rats ass what you or any other of these misguided "Armstronginacs" thinks? Yeah, thats right, I just coined the term "Armstronginacs".
Get a fucking life im sick of your shit.
Think of a better word to use than Retard.
Get fucked!
ur a dick.
get a life, and some friends. maybe then you wouldnt have all this spare time to bag a good cause.
"andrew", see above: dude,
ur a dick.
get a life, and some friends. maybe then you wouldnt have all this spare time to bag a good cause.
thats me.
p.s., in case you missed it the first time,
ur a dick.
love jon
Wow, you're right. I should be using more high-level phrases like: "Get fuucked". Oh and your "sick of my shit"? The don't come to this page! I didn't make you come here and write something. I realize that you are probably only 13 and the two guys that posted right after you are your little friends, but guys really...What the hell are you going to do about it?
It so funny how angry you, and others, get. What did I make fun of your daddy? Did I call your mom a slut? No. All I did was voice my opinion on a guy that you see on TV.
You guys are just little pussies.
Also, why is everyone so lazy they can't just type out "You are"? Instead all these prepubescent posters just type "u r" and sometimes like our idiot friends "jon" and "andrew" they leave out the space and just go with a "ur". I weep for the future of our world's collective education.
I really am sick of your opinion why dont you find something else to combine your negative thoughts with.
The person who wrote above me I dont even know!
I have a quick question for you though. Were dropped on your head as a baby?
Simply because it will explain why your the retard! (hey look your favorite word)
Another thing, you think your so smart "the two guys that posted right after you are your little friends"
Guess what asshole they're the same guy. Are you sure your not 13. Maybe you should start reading the stuff that people put on your site before you comment.
Oh and guess what dipshit. I read everything anyone posts, but I feel like stopping when I read pointless drivel like your posts.
Come on, we can stay on topic can't we?
There is no subject to get back to because it has been exhausted from your continuous unsupported hate of the livestrong bands...
So yeah maybe you should tell us about your life so we all can be ANTI-MIKE. And no i dont love you but i do have a question for you!
Secondly, i doubt that people are only going to react to what you say in your article, when they are 'posting' after numerous others have. You might like to check the facts before replying seeing as I referred to three other posts, not just one.
Next, how is the statement 'The main problem is retards like you that think this is more than it is. It should just be a fundraiser, but you changed it into a fashion statement/religious experience with Armstrong as your spandex wearing messiah!' a metaphor? A metaphor is when a person, says that one thing is another to descibe it, ie. All the world's a stage. What you were doing was ASSUMING that I (Louise), turned this into a fashion statement and that I think that Lance is a messiah. Therefore that is the assumption. (You also assumed that I am a retard, but we wont go there, seeing as I clearly am not.)
Another thing, you're probably right, growing up in a one parent household nowadays doesnt make you special, but Lance wasn't brought up in a time when single parent family's were not accepted, which made his life so much harder than it would in today's society.
And finally I challenge you to convince me that someone who doesn't have a good education can't have a worthwhile opinion. Albert Einstein failed a school entrance exam and Leonardo Da Vinci only went to school untill he was about 14 but both are considered to be geniuses the world over. Just because someone hasn't been taught to spell doesn't mean they can't have ideas. Spelling is learnt but ideas and thought processes are innate.
Maybe you should quit while your way behind.
Do you know anyone who has been ravaged by cancer, do they wear a livestrong band?
I just hope you dont become diagnosed. As i am quite sure you would regret the comments you have made to people on this site.
The reason why i was getting stuck into you earlier is because you were the one giving everyone else abuse and unnecessary sarcasm. I bet it made you angry with the comments i made to you! (i figured you should learn how it feels)
Its fair enough to have your own contention. People would listen to what you have to say more if you didnt mouth-off as if they have thrown a rock at your head.
Listen, I realize that you aren't going to concede you were wrong. That’s fine. But everyone knows that you were not referring to others, you just didn't read my article. We also all know you will never come clean to that. Its fine, you know you were really wrong.
Nope. It was a metaphor, and if you still aren't happy with that, then we can call it a exaggeration for comedic / dramatic purposes. Like I said, I really don't think anyone actually worships Armstrong. Although, I think the other "mike" might be his son, or at the very least jacks off to a picture of Lance right after he jacks off to a picture of me.
"...but Lance wasn't brought up in a time when single parent family's were not accepted," Nope. Still doesn't make him special.
"...convince me that someone who doesn't have a good education can't have a worthwhile opinion." Ok, lets take the other Mike for an example. This moron clearly is either too young to have finished any meaningful education or is just stupid. Look at what he is writing. That guy is beneath everyone. Oh yeah, I also don't care what you think either. I would have cared and I even started too, but then I noticed that you misspelled "describe" (you put "descibe"). So now I don't care what you say either.
"Oh and another thing, by attacking people's grammar, spelling and personal views you degrade your own article and also your argument"
You just don't get it do you?
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To "Sheryl":
"lol "ur" means you're so its not just lazy people who cant be bothered doing a " " and this isn't exactly important 2 people so they and if they are lazy with their grammer it only shows how much they don't care about you."
My god you are a complete idiot. You know those paint chips in your old house might taste good, but they are really doing some serious damage to you.
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To Other Mike:
Actually, I'm feeling pretty good and I'm having a blast laughing at all of these inane comments.
"Do you know anyone who has been ravaged by cancer, do they wear a livestrong band? "
Yes and no.
"I just hope you dont become diagnosed. As i am quite sure you would regret the comments you have made to people on this site." Nope. Actually I have plans in place that if I do happen to die of cancer. I plan to have a really tall stone set with my article and all of my comments engraved into it. I also don't recall saying anything bad about cancer sufferers in general...just Lance.
"I bet it made you angry with the comments i made to you! " Nope. Why would I care what some random guy on the web thinks of me? I realize that all of you care what I think, but that doesn't mean to oppisite is true.
"People would listen to what you have to say more if you didnt mouth-off as if they have thrown a rock at your head."
I think I said it in a clear calm tone from the very beginning. Now, when people swerve off topic, the conversation gets dragged with them. That being said, having never had a rock thrown at my head, so I'm not sure how I would react, but I don't think it is close to what I have shown here.
People that want to hear what I have to say will actually read the article and make their decision. Not everyone out there decides to get so angry to post vulgarities and flip out like Armstrong is your daddy.
first of all I'm sorry for all the mistakes my comment will contain. English is not my native language (I'm German).
I am an great fan of Lance Armstrong and I was simply shocked when I read the headline of this article. So I started reading...
I agree with some of your arguments but there are a few points I would like to comment:
I don't know if it's right to call Lance Armstrong a "douche bag" (what the hell is a douche bag??). Your main argument is that those bracelets are something like a commercial and that he should spend the money anonymously.
I think that something like a cancer foundation works at its best when a popular person found it. It is nothing despicably as long it helps people. What did you do to have the right to criticize it when he gains a profit out of that? This is definitely not his reason for founding that foundation. Do you really think that he thought "Well, I would like to have more money what could I do?? I could found a foundation so the people think I am great person although I'm a douche bag. What was a douche bag again?" ?
And those "little advertisements" makes the people spend for a good reason. Without them most of us wouldn't know about the LAF.
I can understand that it is annoying to see everybody walking around with a bracelet without knowing what it means but I also just can't reconstruct your situation because in Germany aren't so many people wearing it.
Another person called him a whore for leaving his wife. What do we know about his private life? Not as much to judge about him and this is good!
I would like to write more but I can't remember what i also wanted to say...maybe next time =).
Hanni
Can you get a condom big enough to cover that huge dick on your head? Maybe you could fill it with some DOUCHE!
Lame lame lame...
It's just naturally that nobody remembers the other men who won the Tour de France five times. Their triumphs are years ago of course no one really remembering them. Ok, I could have told you their names but just because cycling is a very popular sport in Europe. I am sure that no one will talk about Lance Armstrong in ten years.
I agree with you when you say that some "trend-following" people have ruined it in some case but I haven't got a problem with them as long as it is for a good case.
I have a question: what is your real problem?
I agree with you in the point that the LAF is a marketing campaign for Armstrong himself (of course!!). But on the other hand it's a great thing to use your popularity to start a foundation; to call the people's attention to spend some money on such important things like the fight against cancer - by the way... there are also hundreds of other very important campaigns.
In my opinion one of the main problems of today's society is that the most of us aren't interested in spending money for charity organisations. So we need famous people to make the people think of it. Otherwise they would not realize the necessarity of supporting such campaigns. There is no way out of it.
Today it's Lance Armstrong... but the next generations maybe would not remember him either, then there will be an other famous person founding a foundation to fight against whatever and the people will buy the products of the campaign. But is it really so bad? Don't you think it's the one and only possibility to make the people spending their money?
Of course it's foolish to wear the Livestrong-bracelets just the way you wear some status symbol. But who cares of the foolishness of the mankind?
You don't have to love Armstrong, but you have to realize that it's (maybe) the only chance to make the people think of it, to wake them up.
Best regards,
Anna
PS: My English is not the best... I'm sorry!
I do not have a problem with charity. I do not have a problem with people giving money to cancer research.
What I don't like is Armstrong himself and the stupid people that have turned this psuedo-well-meaning foundation into a complete farce.
No one says that cancer turns you into a better person but I think what really annoys you is that so many people admiring him for admirablly things which you just cannot understand because he could probably be a "douche bag" and other people who also survived cancer aren't as popular as him (what a dishonor!!!).
Let me tell you something: He isn't so popular because he survived cancer. The reason is that after surviving cancer he won the hardest sportevent on earth six times in a row! That turns him into a symbol of hope for so many people! (Yeah I know Barry Bonds is able to swing a baseball bat and no one is interested...)
Really now, I don't have the time or desire to keep answering the same pointless questions over and over again. If no one can bring anything new to the discussion then it has run its course. You are all saying the same lame things over and over again! Its all very pointless. I can't believe that all of you, seemingly anonymous internet users, all have the same stupid, baseless arguments. It’s a shame. This was really getting to be a great discussion.
Sadly, I must do what I never wanted to do and shut down the comments for an article. I think we all know why. I have refuted all of your points on why, for some reason, you think I should like some yellow spandex wearing loser, and collectively you can't seem to bring anything new to the table. Sad. For a moment there I thought someone might really think of a better argument than "You suck", "Its ok to write like a retard (there, that last one's for you "Other Mike")" and "Look at what all the other people have said!"...but clearly you can't, and those that can have failed to step forward.
And so ends the comments section on one truly great article, if not because of how amazingly clear and thought-provoking it is, than because of the sheer interest and emotions it brought out in all of you morons that for some reason act like you know him or is the father of your maladjusted child.
Here is the final word on this subject: Lance Armstong is, and will always be, a douche bag.
The end....for now.